3 Reasons to Post on a Message Board

If you have attended one of my classes about using social media or beginning genealogy, you know that I always recommend reading and posting in message boards. My favorite is boards.rootsweb.com which is also tied to boards.rootsweb.com. All of the boards are searchable, so only put your post on one board.

 

1. Organizing material helps you understand it

I have always my college and graduate students to send the questions that they had outside of the classroom in an e-mail. The act of reviewing the material and formulating a question makes your brain actively engage with the problem. This may cause you to have additional insights and ask new questions that lead to solutions.

 

2. People you don’t know may be able to help

There may be people out there who hold the answer to your questions, or know how to find them. Those cousins you have not met yet might have vital records, bibles, pictures of other memorabilia. Others who read the message boards understand the location, the records that are available and how to search for them.

 

3. Putting your request online is cousin bait

When a cousin you do not know yet searches for the names and places of your common ancestor, your post will be in the results. Message boards can be searched for keywords, and can also be located using Google searches.

 

An example:

Whether you enter through Ancestry.com or Rootsweb, the interface and the message board is the same.

 

 

If you are already signed into Ancesty.com

Help -> Message Boards

 

 

Remember to search the message boards for your family members. There may be a post waiting for you!

A search of the surname message boards yielded no good leads. The surname is common. I elected to make a post in the threads for a place rather than a surname. So I checked the message boards for the location I knew for one of the family’s events, in the United Kingdom and Ireland, England, Cheshire, and put my post in the General message board.

 

 

I clicked on BEGIN NEW THREAD and entered my post.

 

 

Things to include in your post:

• Tell people what you are looking for
• Keep your post brief and direct
• Keep your post informative
• Include family structure for potential matching
• Include other key information

CAVEAT: Not all message posts are answered within hours. Make your post and be patient.

Good luck posting and let me know how you do!

 

 

WWI Battles and Cemeteries

A little while ago, I saw a request on a genealogical Facebook page and tried to locate an obituary for a soldier who died in World War I. Although I did not find the obituary, it led to some interesting websites and resources that I was able to share with the obituary seeker.

If you have an ancestor who died overseas in WWI, you should search the American Battle Monument Commission website.

If you have not lost an ancestor overseas in WWI, you should still check out the resources about the battles and the World War I accessible from this website.

Search the American Battle Monument Commission for soldiers buried overseas.

 

 

To search for only WWI soldiers, uncheck all but the WWI box.

 

You do not have to fill in all the fields; try a first and last name.

I searched for soldiers killed in the Battle of St. Mihiel without a name.

Entered Service From: New York

Branch of Service: U. S. Army

War Conflict: World War I

Keyword: Mihiel

 

 

The details about SGT Walsh indicate that he is memorialized in the Tablet of the Missing at the St. Mihiel American Cemetery France.

 

 

Click on the link for the St. Mihiel American Cemetery page.

 

 

From this page, you can download electronic copies of pamphlets.

The St. Mihiel American Cemetery Booklet contains a history of the battle.

You can view a video about the cemetery.

The ABMC has a channel on YouTube.

Check out The ABMC Learning & Resources Page.

 

 

From this page you can download the 1938 version of the “American Armies and Battlefields in Europe: A History, Guide and Reference Book.” It updated the original 1927 book, “A Guide to the American Battle Fields in Europe” to include the AEF accomplishments.

The members of the Pioneer Infantry are referred to as Pioneer Troops in this book, so you may want to search for “pioneer”.

 

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FamilySearch has links to more information about World War I Casualties.

If your ancestor died in WWI, follow the links to the books that can be downloaded from Google Books, as there are some pictures of the soldiers. The books are organized by state. You can also check the books contents through Ancestry.com.

Looking for the 51st Pioneers in the New York State Military Museum

The New York State Military Museum and Veterans Research Center is part of the New York State Division of Military and Naval Affairs (DMNA). It is located in Saratoga Springs, NY.

This blog post takes you on a tour of the Museum’s website. Hopefully will inspire those who have military ancestors from New York to investigate the material that can be found. Remember to look not only for your ancestor, but for information about the places and times that s/he served. Letters from or pictures of contemporaries may shed light on your ancestor’s experiences. (This approach might help you when you search the websites of military museums in other states.)

My particular interest is about the 51st Pioneer Infantry in World War I. The 51st Pioneer Infantry was formed from New York’s State 10th Infantry Regiment.

Since the Museum can only take request via mail, I did send them a letter and a small contribution. In the letter I told them that I was researching my Grandfather and the 51st Pioneer Infantry. I also shared a copy of my Grandfather’s Service Summary Card in case that would help, or prevent them from duplicating work that had already been done. I received information about the 10th in World War I, and the information that the digitized images that I found in their inventory were not yet available on the website.

 

 

When you start, learn About the Museum.

 

 

Here you can learn about the holdings of the museum, as well as its location and hours. Key information is that you have to send your research inquiries by mail, as they do not have the staff to handle telephone requests.

Click on Research to find out what Resources they have online.

 

 

Veteran Burial Locations links to a page with links for Civil War Burial Cards and a link to a the New Horizons Genealogy website’s collection of Revolutionary War Graves of Soldiers Buried in New York. We are warned this list may be incomplete.

Scrolling down there is a link to Digitized Books. Click on it to see which digitized books are available on the Museum website.

 

 

The Digitized books were worth checking out. “New York in the War of the Rebellion” might be interesting another time.

If you are a New York State veteran, you can select the link for Veteran’s Oral History, where you can learn about how to fill in a questionnaire, learn about the methods to record your history, or find a self-interview packet.

Click on the Unit History Project to view the New York State Unit History Project collecting Unit Histories for major conflicts. The website advertises that it is updated weekly.

 

 

I clicked on World War One, and the current offerings are shown below.

 

 

To search the collections, select Search from the menu on the left side.

 

 

There is a choice of topics to search. To search everything except the roster database, select Search everything.

 

 

In the unit field, I entered: 51st Pioneer Infantry

 

 

Click on the Submit Query button.

The results were in a book about Armories.

 

 

Searching for Keyword: Joseph McMahon gave no results. (To check I was doing this correctly, I went back and searched for the surname of a soldier who appeared in the search results. It worked.)

Searching for Unit: 51st and Conflict WW1 gave no results.

So, I searched for Unit: 51st

 

The results included World War, 1914-1918 United States. Army; World War, 1914-1918; and the unit United States. Army. Pioneer Infantry, 51st (1917-1919).

The results also included New York Infantry 51st Regiment in the Civil War.

 

 

A couple of interesting entries were:

 

 

In the Photographs section there were several entries for the 51st Pioneer Infantry.

 

 

I did click through to the record description, but the links to the pictures were not working. I contacted the Museum and asked about the pictures and was told that they had been scanned, but not loaded onto the web server.

 

 

The individual records contain great information. Remember that you are looking for your ancestor, and also for pictures about the times where and when s/he served.

Good hunting and let me know if your find anything!

 

51st Pioneer Infantry in the Library of Congress American Memory Collection

The American Memory Collection documents the American experience. I searched for the 51st Pioneer Infantry in this collection.

In the search box, I entered “51st Pioneer Infantry” and got only two results. So I tried “51st Pioneer”.

The results were:

There is a choice to download the pdf of the page or of the whole issue.

Be sure to note the page number and position of the article; searching in the pdf may not work.

The first result in “The Stars and Stripes” was:

The second result in “The Stars and Stripes” was from the The Army’s Poets column:

The third result in “The Stars and Stripes” was:

The fourth result was in the Serial Set. It was dated 1863, so it was not relevant.

To take this another step, you can search within the “Stars and Stripes” collection for the terms: 51st Pioneer Infantry. There are other results, but the terms were not adjacent.

Search the American Memory Collection for your ancestors’ military units, and see what you can find. Remember to search for other information about their lives and times in this collection.

The St. Mihiel Offensive and the 51st Pioneer Infantry

General Pershing’s American Expeditionary Force (AEF)  launched the Saint-Mihiel offensive. This was the AEF’s first independent offensive, with an American Army under American command. The goal was to cut off the rail lines between Paris and the Eastern Front. The St. Mihiel salient was a fortified bulge into France that was 15 miles on either side of St. Mihiel, 20 miles south of Verdun.

The 51st Pioneer Infantry was divided. My Grandfather’s Company, B, was attached to First Division. They had their first experience with exploding shells, and enemy machine guns and airplanes dropping bombs. The Pioneers kept roads and bridges repaired and rebuilt. They were tasked with keeping the lines of communication open. Trucks were filled with broken brick and stone from destroyed cities and villages, and were prepositioned where enemy attacks were expected. As soon as a shell exploded in a road, the crew came and repaired it.

The map above is from “The War with Germany A Statistical Summary” by Leonard P. Ayres, Colonel, General Staff, Washington Government Printing Office, 1919.

St. Mihiel by the Numbers

• 1st Time American Expeditionary Forces were under American Command
• 1st Use of the term D-Day
• 7 American Divisions Advanced at 5 A.M. on 12 Sept 1918
• 1 million artillery shells were fired in the first 4 hours
• 1476 allied air planes participated in the greatest air battle of the Great War
• 16,000 Prisoners were taken in two days

5 Web Resources:

1. St. Mihiel Drive 1918 United States Army, World War I from the Official films of the Signal Corps of the U.S. Army taken in France. Note: This video does contain images of fallen soldiers.
   
2. Pershing’s Description of the Battle of Saint Mihiel [Excerpted from the Final Report of Gen. John J. Pershing (Washington, D.C.: Government Printing Office, 1919), pp. 38-43 ]
3. American Expeditionary Force at St. Mihiel
4. The Library of Congress American Memories, Today in History: September 12 Saint-Mihiel Offensive
5. “The War with Germany A Statistical Summary” by Leonard P. Ayres, Colonel, General Staff, Washington Government Printing Office, 1919, Chapter VIII. Two Hundred Days of Battle.